[Arid_gardener] Re: tbranan@gmail.com
june WILDE
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Mon Feb 5 09:46:00 MST 2007
Hi Tim, I 've already started my tomatoes and peppers. They are up and on my porch which is not heated but enclosed. I usually grow Early Girl 75-80 days it is indeterminate, and almost always gives good results. I also have some Celebrity, its short seasoned 95-100 days which is good for our hot summers. This assures you will have fruit before it gets too hot. You will need to shade your tomatoes when you transplant to the garden, leaf hoppers love to spread there virus to tomatoe plants. I use a light weight shade cloth ,which works well during the hot summer to shade the plants. Home Depot had some this past year. I have never had huge peppers here , but always have good luck growing them. This year I have a carnival mix from Burpee , there 70 days till harvest. I am also starting my cucumbers this week ,I like Orient Express ,its long and almost burpless, an just 64 days.. Gardening in the desert is a challenge, the Northwest Master Gardeners at Pora in Sun City West have bulletins and information to assist the new gardener. Good luck
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Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 11:25:30 -0700
From: Carolyn Stoffel <rakena at basicisp.net<mailto:rakena at basicisp.net>>
Subject: [Arid_gardener] Green! Green!
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I have GREEN!
I found one whole sprout this morning (Saturday) from the plantings of
January 5th where I'd planted a snow pea. It's maybe a quarter inch high.
After all the horribly cold, wet weather we've had, I'd about given up
on anything I'd planted growing.
Carolyn Stoffel
Phoenix
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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 15:38:09 -0700
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Summer Winds Nursery 6426 W. Bell Rd has summer veggies, tomatoes etc on sale now. There tomatoes look good ,they also had broccoli the day I was there. The phone number is 623-979-5296 .
June
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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:00:41 -0700 (MST)
From: stacy at makeadifference.org<mailto:stacy at makeadifference.org<mailto:stacy at makeadifference.org%3Cmailto:stacy at makeadifference.org>>
Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page
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I wanted to buy young eggplants to grow in my veg. garden, do you know where I can buy young veggies to transplant?
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:07:17 -0700
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My own limited but long term experience with citrus tells me to leave the
tree or trees alone until the first flush appears in the spring indicating
that the soil is warm aqain. You will get a better feeling for what needs to
go and where you lop can be influenced by the location of new vigorous
growth. Wounds made by the cuts will form callus faster if sap is flowing
and be sure to prune dead branches back to live wood for better healing,
preferably to a point just beyond a bud but keep proportioning in mind as
you do, selecting a lower bud if prudent. If bark is exposed to direct sun
after the frozen foliage is gone, be sure to protect it with white latex.
I don't believe it would be damaging to leave frozen fruit on the tree but
you could pick most or all of it and freeze the juice from the good ones.
Picking would, I believe, have a positive effect on the new crop. You should
fertilize in March June and September and water to a depth of at least 3
feet at the dripline when you do.
Citrus experts are urged to comment on the advice of this novice and adjust
so that I may also learn from the exchange. Citrus is a wonderful fruit and
every Valley home owner should be skilled in its culture.
Dick Gross, Master Gardener Volunteer
Maricopa County Cooperative Extension
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> Should the lemons that are still firm on the frost damaged tree be left,
> or should they all be removed from the tree now? Should the badly frost
> bitten citrus trees be pruned now or wait until early spring?
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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:18:38 -0700
From: "olin miller" <dergartenarzt at att.net<mailto:dergartenarzt at att.net<mailto:dergartenarzt at att.net%3Cmailto:dergartenarzt at att.net>>>
Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Recovery From Freeze & St. Augustine
Grass Questions
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The usual recommendation is not to do anything about your frozen foliage
until the trees and shrubs leaf out and the extent of the damage can be
assessed, then prune out the dead portions. Pruning out only the frozen
tips will cause the plant to bush out at the pruning cut which may be what
you want depending on the tree or shrub type. But it is usually best to
prune back to the collar where the frozen twig or branch emerges from the
supporting branch. As fertilizing now, I would wait and follow your normal
schedule. It wouldn't help with recovering from freezing.
If your ficus trees are young and tender, they may not recover. If not you
might consider replanting with a tree that is better suited to our Northern
Sonoran Desert climate. A mature Ficus nitida tree can spread as much as 40
feet and suck up all of the water nearby.
St. Augustine grass does very well for the first few years and is one of the
few warm season grasses that will grow in shade. But thatch buildup is a
common problem and can result is susceptibility to diseases and pests. It
also can't withstand cold weather and below freezing, like this winter, can
kill it.
Olin
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Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 3:31 PM, Ralph, 85234 Passport43 at Qwest.net<mailto:Passport43 at Qwest.net<mailto:Passport43 at Qwest.net%3Cmailto:Passport43 at Qwest.net>>
> ..> We all know that we have had a hard frost for more that a few days
> this year. What advice can you give me as to when and what kind of
> fertilizer to use on damaged trees and shrubs? Specifically Ficus trees
> seem to have been hit hardest. Also, may I fertilize my lawn soon? That
> reminds me of a question I have been wanting to ask. Will St. Augustine
> (carpet) grass grow here at all? I have some shaded areas that the
> Bermuda grass is not doing very well.
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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:37:14 -0700 (MST)
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Chris Robinson
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I recently posed a question concerning plant questions for a hot dry "island" in a water area that I have volunteered to "beautify."
I am learning some great ideas from your message board!! But still would like any input from experienced gardeners! I also need to find a nursury that would sell our volunteer Landscape committee at the "Landings" in Mesa some discount plants and rocks; Or a nursery that has reasonable prices. Thanks again!
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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:15:03 -0700 (MST)
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Cliff
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I have two Palo Breas that are looking bad. They have marks in the bark that look like bug damage. Each mark is about 1-3" long and 2 millimeters wide. The bark is chewed away and the whitish underlayer can be seen. No bugs are obvious. I have read online that these symptoms could also be from too much water. I just fixed about 4 leaks in my drip system and the soil is saturated.
Question Number 2. What are the birds getting at on these trees in the summer? I have seen neighbor's trees badly damaged along the trunk from bird damage.
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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 22:19:13 -0700
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Subject: [Arid_gardener] tomatoes and peppers
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I've been looking for infomation on the best varities to do well here, I
moved here from southern oregon last november and someone left a flyer at
work with this email address on it so I figured you guys ought to know.
I'm guessing from the heat that you need early maturing varities. when is
the best time to start germinating seeds? I know I should probably start
peppers soon.
does shade cloth help at all for protecting plants? I assume it will help
from sunscald but wont' do anything for pollination.
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